Ok tonight was the first night I actually am cursing at this game and Ironclad. So much so I really am extremely upset.

Let me first state....Im a fairly knowledgable computer user. Been playing game for years. I know my way around in my router control panel and all that.

Tonight me and a new friend (who I just talked into buying the game) spent 2 hours trying to get a game going with no luck at all. We followed the guides on the site including that PDF that one player typed up. We set up port forwarding, trying all kinds of things like turning on DMZ and more. My Vista firewall is disabled.

Hell we even trying taking the router completely out of the loop. I hooked directly from my cable modem to my computer...still got same warnings about people may not be able to connect as Im behind a firewall etc. I have Vista Firewall off....Norton disabled and even took router out of the loop and still have the smae problem.

We both tried everything. We did notice that we both were able to connect to someone elses game. Yet neother of us could host a game. We could see each others games. But cant connect.

Im really upset. I think back to the videos on this game and the producer saying "We have avoided the hurdles of other RTS games as we have beta tested for a long time and dont have the connection issues...". I disagree. A game should not make you jump through hoops like this to get a game going.

I play alot of games. I could list 20+ on this computer right now and none of them ahve ever given me a problem like this to get a game going with a friend. This is really upsetting. If someone has any suggestions on how to get this working...please enlighten me.

We are both using Linksys routers. Mine is a WRT54GS. We are using Vista. My firmware is up to date on router. I set up forwarding under the gaming section of panel. As I said I even tried turning DMZ on. I tried a million things. this is really upsetting.