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Published on April 23, 2009 By Tekkor In Demigod

Im just curious on what everyone elses opinion is on the comment Brad made in the video yesterday about adding a feature where even on a Pantheon game people could join as a team with thier friends to play?

Me personally I dont like that idea at all. Yeah its fine for custom games or for Skirmish games even. But the Pantheon games should be a good playing field for everyone. Not a setup where 4 guys who are pro's can hammer 4 random matchmaking guys into the ground 5 games a day to inflate thier rankings.

I also see the possibilty of arranged game exploit possibly happening if guys figure it out. As it is right now its impossible as you join and its just luck of the draw to a certain extent which is how it should be at least for the Pantheon games in my opinion. 

Just my opinion on thinking of it at first thought.

 

 


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on Apr 24, 2009

bawahah(Nailed me spot on there hilarious) ya it is one hell of a text blob man that sure looks alot different on my phone while im riding the train home drinking.. apologies for nonesenless blobber.. i had read in a previous post by you trekkor no less than 2-3 days ago that you had not yet even played online. And you suggested they develop a dual pantheon for ranoms/teamplay. All im saying is that from being in the video game industry. and seeing how long it takes for content to be put out when it's a Publisher-->developer--->P&D---->Q&A... then testing.. yadda yadda yadda.. just for a patch. Stardocks trying i mean he(froboy in day 8 status report) even says for the first time a publishers releasing content to try and smooth out the mp issues as soon as possible. But let's be realistic. just adding a teamplay feature wouldn't be all that bad now. no need for dual pantheon enough random instant action =/

on Apr 24, 2009

XplosivMenace
bawahah(Nailed me spot on there hilarious) ya it is one hell of a text blob man that sure looks alot different on my phone while im riding the train home drinking.. apologies for nonesenless blobber.. i had read in a previous post by you trekkor no less than 2-3 days ago that you had not yet even played online. And you suggested they develop a dual pantheon for ranoms/teamplay. All im saying is that from being in the video game industry. and seeing how long it takes for content to be put out when it's a Publisher-->developer--->P&D---->Q&A... then testing.. yadda yadda yadda.. just for a patch. Stardocks trying i mean he(froboy in day 8 status report) even says for the first time a publishers releasing content to try and smooth out the mp issues as soon as possible. But let's be realistic. just adding a teamplay feature wouldn't be all that bad now. no need for dual pantheon enough random instant action =/

Once againg thanks for the nearly unreadable blob of text.

I said in the post your referring to that me and my son had been holding off playing much online because we wanted the favor point reset thing fixed. This is because we play alot of network games and those count to your single player points. Sucks they go away soon as you play a onine game. But I have a 3rd account and play that online. I have played plenty of games online...but in truth...what the hell does that have to do with what we were talking about?

What because I dont play enough online matches I cant comment on a Pantheon game setup? LOL...whatever. 

Plus....anyway....you obviously didnt read any of the posts either. I NEVER said we needed to have two seperate or dual pantheons. Never. Read through my posts. I never suggested two different leaderboards or anything like that (if somehow I did it was not intended). The point many of us made is only in when it matches people to play to match preset teams together and random teams together to PLAY A GAME. The stats can all go on the same Pantheon results.

 

on Apr 24, 2009

rtschutter
Yes many of us don't enjoy playing games by ourselves.  I doubt I would play this game at all if I weren't playing with buddies...so playing together in something like Pantheon sounds fun.  If they make two pantheons, one for teams and one for singles that would be great.  But personally I think a team-oriented one is more important, for the longevity of the game.

Also random teams isn't 'fair and balanced' ...sure everyone has a fair chance to get the good team, but that doesn't make the teams themselves balanced.

they can use the same patheon game. all they need to do is when you que up your que as a team or solo. if ur qued up as a team then your que is in the team setup same as solo it would be in the solo q.

on Apr 24, 2009

2 Pantheons is a good idea.

One for Arranged Teams/Clans and Onefor Random Teams

 

To simplify, you could merge Arranged Teams with Clans.  So in order to play on a team with someone you must be in the same clan.  This encourages groups of people who play together frequently to give themselves a name. 

 

And even if your playing with someone who you don't normally play with, you either invite them to your clan, or create a new one.  It's as simple as naming your team.  To keep the stats from being saturated with one game clans, maybe a clan has to log 5 games together before their stats start getting counted.  Or maybe during your first five games, if you go more than a month between games those stats are lost.  Or not who, cares if there are a bunch of 1 game clans?

 

I just hope this is coming soon.  If they haven't even started, it could be a looong wait.

 

 

on Apr 24, 2009

How about just teamed Pantheon games, and non-teamed Pantheon games?

So you can make a team of 2-5 players, join together, and then be matched against another team with an equal number of players. That shouldn't be too tough to program.

I definately think this possibility should be there.

on Apr 24, 2009

Polynomial
Don't be mistaken. I want a premade automatch system. And to be frank, the more skilled players generally do automatches in online games. Its just too convoluted to make a system where is separates premades and non premades.

You bought the wrong game if you're looking for a single player type approach here. Again, this game is clearly aimed as a team game. It needs to stay that way.

Nobody is talking about a "single player type approach". Either you have a really big problem with reading comprehension, or you're trolling.

The premade teams will steamroll random teams, so it should be premade v premade and random v random so that it's fair.

The peope who don't have a team to play with will not be able to enjoy the game at all. Don't you care for other people... at all?

[quoteA guy that can get placed with a random group of people and consistently win is far more skilled. [/quote]

More lucky I would say. Even if you're the best player ever, if your team is feeding, you aren't going to win. Skill or no skill, being outgeared will make you lose. You won't be able to kill your enemies, or they'll do so much damage that you won't be able to stay in attack range.

on Apr 24, 2009

The problem with making 2 seperate queues, one for teams, one for solos, is that you are effectively splitting the player base more. If you think it's a bitch getting in a game now, wait till they do something that like.

Besides, like i said in another post, people are already doing teams in pantheon, it's not that hard. Just all play as dark or light and click the fight button at the same time and voila, team pantheon.

on Apr 24, 2009

Riggamortis
The problem with making 2 seperate queues, one for teams, one for solos, is that you are effectively splitting the player base more. If you think it's a bitch getting in a game now, wait till they do something that like.

Besides, like i said in another post, people are already doing teams in pantheon, it's not that hard. Just all play as dark or light and click the fight button at the same time and voila, team pantheon.

In all honesty though...a large part of the issue of "getting a game now" is the connection issues. I tried to get in 6 games last night and gave up after repeated kicks. So that will improve and make it more viable to have the seperate queues. Also keep this in mind...they could make it where if your joining solo you can select an option to be joined to either type of game. Premade teams or not. So if you dont want to wait just do that etc. 

On the deal of joining together at same time and all that....yeah thats fine if people want to do that but it doesnt 100% guaranteee all of you will get on the same team. Although Im sure its fairly high with the disconnect issues. Try that though when the bots are phased out and people can connect more reliably and I bet your saem team percentage is going to go down.

 

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